TRUMP: OK, thank you very much. Hello Brad and Ryan and everyone. We appreciate the time and the call, um, so we spent a lot of time on it, and if we could just go over some of the numbers I think it’s pretty clear that we won. We won a lot, Georgia. You even see it by rally size, frankly. We’d be 25 to 30. Got 000 people per rally and the competition would get less than 100 people and it never made sense, but we did a number of things. We have at least two or three – 250 to 300. 000 ballots were mysteriously thrown into the reels. Much of it had to do with Fulton County that wasn’t verified. We think if you check the signatures, a real check on the signatures going back in Fulton County, you will find at least a few hundred thousand forged signatures from people who have been forged, and we’re pretty sure that will happen. Another, another enormous number. We will have an exact number with certified accountants in the next two days but an exact number is given but it’s in the 50’s and these are people who voted and they were told they can’t vote, because they have already been elected, and it’s a very sad thing. They went out and complained, but the number is great. We have it for you, but it’s a lot more than the number of 11. 779. This is the current margin, which is only 11. 779 is. Brad, I think I think you agree, don’t you? I think this is something that everyone can agree on. But that’s the difference in votes, but we’ve had hundreds of thousands of ballots that we actually can. We’re going to give you a pretty accurate number. You don’t need a lot of a number because the number I lost by in theory would be 11. 779.
But you also have a significant number of people, thousands upon thousands, who went to the polling station in November. 3 was told they couldn’t vote, they couldn’t vote because a ballot was cast in their name, and you know that is very, very, very, very sad. I think we had about 4. 502 voters who voted but were not on the voter registration list. So there are five thousand – 4. 502 – who voted, but they weren’t on the voter registration list that they had to be. They had 18. 325 free address selectors, they did not have any – the address was free and they must not be counted. That’s 18. 325. Smaller number, you had 904 that only voted where they only had a P.. Ö. , a PO box number, and they had a PO box number and that is not allowed. We had at least 18. 000, that’s on tape, we counted them very carefully, 18. 000 voters deal with [name], she is an election cheater, professional poll scammer and hustler, [name] that is, that was the tape that was shown all over the world which makes everyone look bad. You, me and everyone else where they went, no. 1, they said very clearly, and it was reported that there was a major major water break. Everyone fled the area and then came back, [name], her daughter and a few people. There were no Republican election observers, in fact there were no Democratic election observers because they were. But there were also no Democrats and no law enforcement. In the late morning they went, in the early morning they went to the table with the black robe, the black shield, and pulled out the voices. These votes were cast there a few hours earlier. The table was set there. I think it was, Brad, you would know it was probably eight or seven hours ago, and then it was full of voices. They were not in an official voter box, but in suitcases or suitcases, suitcases. But they weren’t in the voter box. The minimum number could be because we saw it and they saw it, certified in slow motion, instant playback if you can believe it. But it was in slow motion and it was magnified many times over. And the minimum was 18. 000 ballots, all for Biden.
Um, you had out-of-state voters, they voted in Georgia, but they were from state 4. 925. They had sent postal ballot papers to vacant positions; they were postal ballot papers to vacant addresses. They had nothing to do with addresses. That’s 2. 326. Um, and you had dropboxing which was very bad. They had Dropbox boxes that were picked up. We have photos and affidavits from many people. I don’t know if you saw the hearings but you have dropboxes where the box was picked up and not delivered for three days. So all sorts of things could have happened to this box, including how you knew how to cast the votes you wanted. So there have been many violations, and the end result is a multiple of the 11th. 779 margin that they said we lost, we had tremendous, I mean you have, the state is in an uproar about it, and I know you’d like to get to the bottom of it. Even though I saw you on TV today and you said you didn’t find anything wrong, I mean, you know, and I didn’t lose the state, Brad. People said it was the highest vote ever, there was no way, a lot of the political people said there is no way to hit me and they hit me. You beat me in – as you know, in every single state we won every state. We have won every statehouse in the country. We held the Senate, which is shocking to people, although we’ll see what happens tomorrow or in a few days. And we won the house, but we won every single statehouse, and we won Congress, which was supposed to lose 15 seats, and they won 16 or 17 or so I think. I think there is now a five difference. There should be a lot more difference. But politicians in every state, but politicians in Georgia, have made affidavits and – that they definitely did not beat me in the – in the elections where the people came out – they actually expected to lose. And then they won a lot because of the coattails and they said there is no way they did a lot of polls before the election. There was no way they won. The votes were in large numbers and we are trying to get those numbers and we will have them. You need a certified time. But, but, but they are massive and far bigger than the 11. 779.
The other thing, dead, so dead voted. And I think the number is close to 5. 000 people. And they went to obituaries. They went to all possible methods to get an exact number. And a minimum is around 5. 000 voters. The bottom line is if you add it all up, then 300. Add 000 fake ballot papers. Then the other thing they said is in Fulton County and other areas, and this may or may not be true. This came just this morning that they burn their ballots, shred them, shred ballots, and remove equipment. They are changing the equipment on the Dominion machines. And that’s not legal. And they should have shredded. And I think they said 300 pounds, 3. 000 pounds ballot paper. And that only came to us today as a report. And you know it’s a very sad situation.
But but Brad, if you’ve taken the minimum, we are, we are many, many times over 11. 779, and many of these numbers are certified or they are certified, but they are certified or such. There are numbers out there that exceed the margin, the loss margin. It hit, they hit, I mean a lot. And people should be happy to have an accurate count instead of a choice that has terrible, I mean, turmoil in Georgia and elsewhere. You are not the only one. I mean, we have other states that I believe will be moving to us shortly.
And but that is, this is something I am thinking of as an example in Detroit, and I think there is a section, a good section of your state that we are not sure about. So we won’t report it yet. But in Detroit we had 100 – I think 139 percent of the people voted. That’s not that good. In Pennsylvania they had well over 200. 000 votes more than people. And that was, it doesn’t play so well, and the legislation out there that is Republican is extremely activist and angry. But I mean there were other things that were almost as bad. But, as an example, in Michigan they had an enormous number of dead voting. I think it was, I think Mark, it was 18. 000 or an incredibly high number, way higher than you, you were in the four to five category. 000. And that was painstakingly checked by going through the obituary columns in the newspapers.
So I think if all is said Brad, it’s the bottom line again and the tentative ballots, you know, you have to tell me about the tentative ballots but we have a lot of people who complained about you couldn’t choose because they have already been elected and they are great people. And they were shocked. I don’t know if you mention these preliminary ballot papers. In some states, we have had many tentative voting situations where people got a tentative vote because they came in on November. 3, they already voted, voted for. That was it. I mean, we have so many votes many, many times to win this state. And we won the state, and we won it very substantially and easily. And we are, we get, we have a lot of it, you know, they are certified, far more certified than we need. However, we also receive additional certified numbers and pictures from Dropboxes that are late and in some cases three days later. We also have many affidavits for this purpose.
MARK MEADOWS, White House Chief of Staff: So, Mr.. . President, if I, if I could be able to step in and I’ll give Brad a chance. Mr. Secretary, one, obviously there are allegations that we believe not every vote or fair vote and legal vote has been counted. And that contradicts the representation of the State Secretary. I hope that somehow we can reach an agreement to look at this a little more closely. As you know, the President mentioned Fulton County, but in some of those areas where there seems to be a difference in where the facts seem to be leading. And so, mr. . Secretary, I was hoping that in the spirit of cooperation and compromise there would be something we can at least discuss, in order to investigate some of these allegations and find a way that is less contentious.
RAFFENSPERGER: Well, I heard what the President just said. President Trump, we have had several lawsuits and have had to go to court on the lawsuits and objections from – we disagree that you have one. We disagree on the number of 200 you mentioned. 000. And I’ll go through that point by point. What we did was give our Senate about an hour and a half to go through the election issue after issue. And then we gave them about two and a half hours of our time at the State House, the government affairs committee, going back point by point to all the issues at stake. And then we met with our U a few days ago. S.. . Congressmen, Republican congressmen, and we gave them about two hours to talk about these past elections. I think it’s the postal voting process. I don’t think you’re really questioning the Dominion machines because we did a hand replay 1 percent of all the ballots and compared to what the machine said. And it came to practically the same result. Then we did the recount. We have practically the same result. I think we could probably take this off the table. I don’t think there is a problem with that. I think what you were –
TRUMP: Well Brad, Brad, not that there is no problem, but because we have a big problem with Dominion and other states and maybe yours. But we have, we don’t feel like we have to go there, and just to, you know, maybe do something different from what Mark says. Mark Meadows. Yes, I would like to go further, but we don’t really need that. We all have the voices we need. You know we won the state. If you have taken these are the minimal numbers, the numbers I gave you. These are certified numbers, your postal vote to free addresses, your, your non-governmental voters, 4. 925.
You know, when you add them up, it’s a lot more often, it’s a multiple of 11. 779. So we could go through. We haven’t passed through your Dominion so we can’t give you a blessing. I mean, in other states we think we’ve seen tremendous corruption in Dominion machines, but we have to see. But we only lost the state by 11 thousand – that number by 11. 000 votes and 779. So with what is said, with exactly what we have. And you know, with exactly what we have, we give you minimal, minimal numbers, we make the most conservative numbers possible. We’re over the edge many, many, many times. And so we don’t really have to, Mark – I don’t think we have to go through the machines because what’s the difference between winning the election with two or two votes and winning with half a million votes? I think I probably won it by half a mill – I mean, one of the things that happened, Brad, is that now other people from Alabama, South Carolina and other states are coming in and they’re saying, ‘It is impossible for you to have lost Georgia. ‘ We won. You know, in Alabama we set a record and got the highest vote of all time. In Georgia, we set a record with an enormous number of votes. And they say: « It is not possible to have lost Georgia. ‘
And I could tell you at our rallies, I could tell you at the rally that I have on Monday evening, in the place where people are already standing at the door and waiting. It is just not possible to have lost Georgia. It is not possible. When I heard it was close, I said there is no way. But they cast a lot of votes there late at night, you know that, Brad. And we’re working very, very strictly on that. But regardless of these votes, we still have 11 to – essentially 11. 000 votes lost. And we have already calculated and certified many more votes. I just do not know. You know, Mark, I don’t know what the purpose is. I’m not going to give Dominion a pass because we found too many bad things. But we don’t need a Dominion or anything. We have, we have, we won this election in Georgia based on all of that. And there’s nothing wrong with that, Brad. You know, I mean to have that, to have a correct one. The people of Georgia are angry, and these numbers will repeat themselves on Monday night, along with others we will have by then that are even bigger, and the people of Georgia are angry, the people of the country are angry. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that you recalculated because the 2nd. 236 and postal ballots, I mean, are all exact numbers used by accounting firms, law firms, etc.. . And even if you cut them in half, cut them in half, and cut them in half again, there are more votes than we need.
RAFFENSPERGER: Well, Mr.. . President, the challenge you have is the data you have is wrong. We spoke to the congressmen and they were surprised. But they – I think there is a person named Mr. . Brainard who came to these meetings and presented data, and he said there were dead people, I believe there were more than 5. 000. The actual number was two. Two. Two dead who voted. And that’s wrong, there were two.
CLETA MITCHELL, Trump attorney: I’ll say Mr.. . Secretary, one of the things we asked and did – what we said was and if you look at our petition it says we took the names and birth years and, you know, we had certain information is available. We asked your office for documents that only you have. And so we said there is a universe of people who have the same name and year of birth and have died. But we don’t have the records that you have, and one of the things that we’ve been suggesting formally and informally for weeks is to try and have you provide us with the records that would be needed for our confirmation –
TRUMP: But, but Cleta, even before you do that – Cleta, even before you do that and not even include that, so I barely included that number even though we have an enormous number of deaths in one state people, so i don’t know. I’m sure we do the same in Georgia. I’m sure we do the same in Georgia. But are we that far ahead of these numbers?. Even the fake ballots from [name], known scammer, you know the internet, do you know what was trending on the internet? Where is [name]? Because they thought she was in jail. Where is [name]? It’s crazy. It’s crazy. That was the minimum number of 18. 000 for [name], but they think it’s probably around 56. 000 are. But the minimum number is 18. 000 the night she ran back when everyone was gone and stuffed the ballot boxes. Let’s face it, Brad. I mean, they did it in slow motion, zoomed in. Law? She stuffed the ballot boxes. They were stuffed like no one has seen them before. So there is a term for when it’s a machine instead of a ballot box. But she stopped the machine. She stopped the vote. Everyone, each ballot passed three times. They showed. Here is voting slip no. 1 here. Here it is a second time, the third time, the next ballot. I mean, look Brad, that means we have a new tape that we’re going to release. It’s devastating. By the way, this one event, this one event is much more than the 11th. 000 voices we’re talking about. It’s, you know, an event was a disaster.
It’s just like that, you know, but it was something that can’t be denied. And again we have a version that you haven’t seen yet, but it’s enlarged. It’s enlarged. And you can see it all. And she put it in every vote three times for some reason. And I don’t know why, but you know why, I don’t know why, three times. Why not five times?. Law? But yes, go ahead.
RAFFENSPERGER: You are talking about the State Farm video. And I find it extremely regrettable that Rudy Giuliani or his people sliced and diced this video and pulled it out of context. So the next day we turned on WSB-TV and let them show it, see the entire tape run and what you will see, the events that played out are nowhere near what was what was projected, you know –
TRUMP: But where were the election monitors, Brad? There were no election monitors there. There were no Democrats or Republicans. There was no security there.
It was late in the evening, late in the morning, and there was no one else in the room. Where were the election observers and why did they say a water pipe broke, what they did and what is reported in the newspapers? They said they were gone. They leaked because of a break in the water supply and there was no water supply. There was nothing there. There was no break. There was no main water break. But if you take it all out, where were the Republican election observers, even where the Democratic election observers were because there weren’t any.
And then you say, well they left their station you know when you look at the tape and that was, that was checked by professional cops and detectives and other people, when they went in a rush, everyone left in a hurry about the water pipe, but everyone was in a hurry. These people left their station.
When they returned they did not go to their station. They went to the apron that was wrapped around the table and beneath which were thousands and thousands of ballot papers in a box that was not an official or sealed box. And then they took this and went back to another station. So if they had come back they would have gone to their station and kept working. But they couldn’t even do that because it’s illegal, because they didn’t have Republican election monitors. And remember, her reputation is – she’s known all over the internet, Brad. She is known everywhere.
I’m telling you, « Where is [name]? » was one of the hottest spots. [Name], they knew her. « Where is [name]? » Brad, there can be no justification for this. And I, you know, I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. But that was – and Brad, why did you vote three times? You know, they used it three times.
RAFFENSPERGER: Mr. . President, you didn’t say that. We checked this and conclusively proved that they were not scanned three times.
TRUMP: Well, where were everyone else at this late hour in the morning? Where was everyone? Where were the republicans? Where were the security guards? Where were the people who were there shortly before when everyone ran out of the room? Why did we not have any security in the room? Why did they run to the end of the table? Why do they run over there and just open the skirt and tear out the voices. I mean, Brad. And they sat there, I think for five hours or something like that, the voices. But they all just ran back and left, you know Brad . . .
TRUMP: I don’t care about the link. I do not need it. Brad, I have a much better connection.
MITCHELL: I’ll tell you. I saw the tape. The full band. Alex too. We saw it. And what we saw and confirmed in timing is that they made everyone leave. We have made affidavits. And then they started processing ballots. And we estimate it’s around 18. There were 000 ballots. We do not know that. If you know . . .
TRUMP: But nobody can stand up for it, Brad. Nobody. I mean, look, that means you have to be a kid to think differently. Just one kid.
RYAN GERMANY, Chief Attorney, Georgian State Secretary: We had ours – that’s Ryan Germany. We had our law enforcement officers speak to everyone who was there after this incident came to light. G. B.. . I. was with them as well as F. . B.. . I. Agents.
TRUMP: Well, there is no way they can – then they are incompetent. You’re either dishonest or incompetent, OK?
TRUMP: There are only two answers: dishonesty or incompetence. There is just no way. Appearance. There is no possibility. And on the other hand, I also said, there is no way. I mean, there’s no way these things could have been, you know, you have all these different people who voted, but they don’t live in Georgia anymore. What was that number, Cleta? That was a pretty good number too.
MITCHELL: The number that registered out of state after moving out of Georgia. And so they had a date when they moved out of Georgia, they registered to vote from the state. And then there are 4. 500, I don’t have that number right in front of me.
TRUMP: I thought that was a large number. It was in the 20s. And the point is –
GERMANY: We also went through all of these and those numbers that we received, this woman. Mitchell just said they are incorrect. Everyone we’ve been through are people who lived in Georgia, moved to another state, but then rightly returned to Georgia. And in many cases –
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TRUMP: How can people do that? They moved out and then said, « Ah, the hell with that, I’m going to move back. « You know, it doesn’t sound perfectly normal – you mean they moved out, and what, they missed it so much that they wanted to move back in? » It’s crazy.
GERMANY: This is that they withdrew years ago. This wasn’t like something near the election. So there is something about this data that is just not correct.
TRUMP: Well I don’t know, all I know is that it’s certified. And they moved out of Georgia and voted. It doesn’t mean they’ve moved back in, does it, Cleta?
MITCHELL: No, but I mean we’re going to look at the voter registration. If you have additional documentation, we asked you for it, but you did not tell us about it. They just keep saying that you investigated the allegations.
TRUMP: Cleta, many of them don’t have to be shared. I mean, to be honest, they should share. You should share it because you want an honest choice.
I won this election with hundreds of thousands of votes. There is no way I lost Georgia. There is no possibility. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes. I only go by small numbers when you add them up, they are a multiple of 11. 000. But, but I won this state with hundreds of thousands of votes.
Do you now think they may have destroyed ballots in Fulton County? Because that’s the rumor. And also that Dominion took out machines. The Dominion is moving really fast to get rid of their machines.
GERMANY: This is Ryan Germany. No, Dominion hasn’t removed any machines from Fulton County.
TRUMP: But did you move the inner parts of the machines and replace them with other parts?
TRUMP: What about, what about, what about the ballot papers?. Shredding the ballot. Did you shred ballots?
GERMANY: The only investigation we have on this – you have not destroyed any ballot papers. There was a problem in Cobb County where normal office shredding was done to get rid of old stuff and we looked into that. But this stuff from the previous elections.
TRUMP: It fails the smell test because we hear them shredding thousands and thousands of ballots, and now they say, « Oh, we’re just cleaning up the office. « Yes.
RAFFENSPERGER: Mr. . President, the problem you have with social media, you – people can say anything.
TRUMP: Oh, these are not social media. This is Trump Media. It’s not social media. It really isn’t, it’s not social media. I’m not interested in social media. I couldn’t care less. Social media is big tech. Big tech is on your side, you know. I don’t even know why you have a page because you want an accurate choice. And you’re a republican.
TRUMP: No, no, you don’t. No no you don’t. You haven’t, you haven’t. Not even close. You have lost hundreds of thousands of votes. And only with the small numbers you are absent from those numbers, and those numbers can’t be simple – well, why not? – OKAY. So you sent us to Cobb County to verify the signature, right? They sent us to Cobb County, which we didn’t want to go to. And you said it was open to the public and we could have ours, and so could our experts. They weren’t allowed to enter the room. But we didn’t want Cobb County. We wanted Fulton County. And you wouldn’t give it to us. Why don’t we sign – and why can’t it be made available to the public?
And why can’t we let professionals do it instead of amateurs who never find anything and don’t want to find anything? They don’t want to find anything, you know they don’t want to find anything. One day you will tell me the reason for it because I don’t understand your reasoning, but one day you will tell me the reason for it. But why don’t you want to find
TRUMP: Why did you do Cobb County? We didn’t even ask for it – we asked for Fulton County, not Cobb County. Go on, please. Go straight ahead.
GERMANY: We chose Cobb County because it was the only county where there was evidence that the signature verification was not properly carried out.
TRUMP: No, but I told you. But we don’t say that. We are the injured party.
TRUMP: Fulton County. Appearance. Stacey is as dishonest as they come in my opinion. She surpassed you . . . with everything. She got you to sign a totally unconstitutional agreement, which is a disastrous agreement. You cannot verify signatures. I cannot imagine that you will be able to reap in this agreement. This agreement is a disaster for this country. But she somehow got you to sign the thing, and she tricked you every step of the way.
And I hate to imagine what will happen on Monday or Tuesday, but it’s very scary to people. You know when the ballots flow in out of nowhere. It’s very scary to people. This informed consent is a disaster. It’s a disaster. A very good lawyer who looked into it said he had never seen anything like it.
RAFFENSPERGER: Harvesting is still illegal in the state of Georgia. And that settlement agreement has not changed that one iota.
TRUMP: It is not a settlement agreement, but a declaration of consent. There’s even a decree of consent, isn’t it? The term declaration of consent is used. It is not called a settlement agreement. It’s a decree of consent. It’s a disaster.
GERMANY: I do not have it in front of me, but it was not entered by the court, it is not a court order.
TRUMP: But Ryan, that’s called a declaration of consent, is that correct? On paper. Is that correct?
GERMANY: I don’t think so, I don’t think so, but I don’t have it in front of me.
TRUMP: OK, whatever, it’s a disaster. It’s a disaster. Appearance. Here is the problem. We can do the signature verification and find hundreds of thousands of signatures if you let us. And the only way you know is by going back in time. But you didn’t do that in Cobb County. You have only looked at one side compared to another. The only way to do a signature verification is with the one she signed in November. Recently. And compare it to two years ago, four years ago, six years ago, you know, or even one. And you will find that you have a lot of different signatures. But in Fulton, where they dumped ballots, you will find that you have many that are not even signed, and you have many that are fakes.
OK, you know that. You know that. You have no doubt about that. And you will find that within minutes you are at 11. 779 will be because Fulton County is totally corrupt, and so are they, totally corrupt.
And they play you and laugh at you behind your back, Brad, whether you know it or not, they laugh at you and you’ve adopted a state that’s a republican state, and you ‘We almost got it to a republican Made impossible to win on fraud because they cheated like no one had cheated before. And I don’t care how long it takes, you know, we’ll have other states – pretty good.
But I won’t . . . that is never . . . This is . . . We have an incredible talent that said they have never seen anything . . . The problem now is that they need more time for the big numbers. But the numbers are very large. And I think you will find that they – by the way, some information, I think you will find that they destroy ballots because they have to get rid of the ballots, because the ballots aren’t signed. The ballot papers are corrupt and brand new, they have no seals, and there is the whole thing with the ballot papers. But the ballot papers are corrupt.
And you will find that it does – which is completely illegal, it’s more illegal for you than it is for them because you know what they did and you don’t report it. That’s a criminal, that’s a crime. And you can’t let that happen. This is a huge risk for you and your lawyer, Ryan. And that’s a big risk. But in my opinion, they’re shredding ballots based on what I’ve heard. And they remove machines and move them as fast as they can, both criminal finds. And you can’t let it happen and you let it happen. You know i mean i’ll notify you that you allow it. look here. I just want to do that. I only want 11. Find 780 votes, one more than we did because we won the state.
And turning the state over is a great will for our country because that is – it’s a will that they can admit a mistake or whatever you want to call it. If it was a mistake, I don’t know. Many people think that it wasn’t a mistake. It was a lot more criminal than that. But it’s a big problem in Georgia and it’s not a problem that is going away. I mean, you know it’s not a problem that goes away.
GERMANY: … Let me tell you what we’re seeing. What we see is not what you are describing at all. These are investigators from our office, these are investigators from G. . B.. . I. and they look and they are good. And they don’t see that. And we will keep looking. We’ll look at all of these things further.
TRUMP: Well, you’d better check the ballots because they’re tearing up ballots, Ryan. I’m just telling you, Ryan. They destroy ballot papers. And you should take a close look at that. Because it’s so illegal. You may not even believe it because it’s so bad. But they destroy ballots because they think we’ll get there someday, because someday we’ll get to Fulton. In my opinion, it’s never too late. So this is the story. Look, we only need 11. 000 votes. We have far more than what it is now. We will always have more. And do you even have preliminary voting papers, Brad? Provisional ballot?
TRUMP: Sure, but do you have it? I mean, are they counted or did you just hold them back because, you know, in other words, how many preliminary ballots you have in the state?
TRUMP: Because most of them are named Trump. Because these are people who were betrayed when they walked in. And we have thousands of people who testified or wanted to testify when they walked in. They would probably vote in November. 3. And they were told, « I’m sorry, you have already been elected, you have already been elected. « . « The women, men started screaming. « No, I proudly voted until November. 3. « They said, » I’m sorry, but you have already been elected and you have a ballot, « and these people are beside themselves. So they went out and filled out a preliminary ballot that had the name Trump on it.
And what about the amount of military votes received? And while I won the military a lot, it was 100 percent Trump. I mean 100 percent Biden. Do you know about it A large group of ballot papers came in. I think it was in Fulton County, and they happened to be 100 percent for Trump – for Biden, although Trump won the military by a lot, you know, a tremendous amount. But those ballots were 100 percent for Biden. And do you know about it? A very large number came in, all for Biden. Does anyone know about it?
TRUMP: OK, Cleta, I’m not asking you Cleta, honestly. I ask, I ask Brad. Do you know the military voices that we have now confirmed? Do you know that 100 percent of the military votes were received? I mean 100 percent for Biden. Do you know about it?
GERMANY: I don’t know, I know that we have it when military ballots come in, it’s not just military, there are also military and overseas citizens. The military part of it generally goes Republicans. The overseas part of the population is generally very democratic. This was a mix of them.
TRUMP: No, but that was it. Yeah that’s ok. But I understand, I have 78 percent in the military. Those ballot papers were all for it, they didn’t tell me that overseas. Might be overseas too, but I’m getting votes overseas too, Ryan, you know, in fairness. No, they came in, a large crowd came in, and it was 100 percent for Biden. And that’s criminal. You know this is criminal. okay. That’s another criminal, that’s another of the many criminal events, many criminal events here.
Oh, I don’t know, look Brad. I have to get – I have to 12. Find 000 votes and I often have them. And that’s why I won the state. That’s before we move on to the next step that’s going on right now. You know, and I was watching you this morning and you said there was no crime. But I mean, all of this stuff is very dangerous. If you are not talking about crime, it is very dangerous for you to say so.
I just don’t know why you wouldn’t want the votes to be counted for what they are. As you did when you performed this check. And I was surprised because you know . . . And we found a few thousand votes that were against me. I was actually surprised because the way this exam was done is all you do is re-certify existing votes and you got votes and you just counted them up and you still have 3. 000 found we are bad. That was kind of a surprise, three or five, I don’t know. Still a lot of voices. But, you have to go back to check the past few years for signatures. And if you check with Fulton County, you got hundreds of thousands because they dumped ballots in Fulton County and the other county next to it.
So what are we doing here guys? I only need 11. 000 votes. Fellas, I need 11. 000 votes. Give me a break. You know, we already have that in spades. Or we can go on, but that is not fair to the voters in Georgia because they will see what happened and they will see what happened. I mean, I will take on anyone you want in relation to [name] and her lovely daughter, a very lovely young lady, I’m sure of that. But I will, I will take [Name]. I will take anyone you want. And the minimum was 18. 000 ballots, but they used them three times. So that’s a lot of voices. And by the way, they were all in Biden, that’s the other thing we didn’t say. You know the [name], one thing I forgot to say was the most important. Do you know that every single ballot she did went to Biden? You know that right? By the way, do you know that, Brad?
Every single ballot that she made through the machine early that morning went to Biden. Did you know Ryan?
TRUMP: No, roughly [name]. About early morning, Ryan. You know where the woman went when the whole gang pulled that stuff out from under the table, right? Do you know, do you know who these ballots are, do you know who they were addressed to, do you know who they voted for?
TRUMP: No, no, no – have you ever checked the ballot papers that were betrayed by [name], a well-known political activist?. Have you ever checked who those votes were for?
TRUMP: No, they were 100 percent for Biden, 100 percent. There was no Trump vote in the entire group. Why don’t you want to find this, Ryan? What’s wrong with you? I heard that your lawyer is actually very difficult, but I’m sure you are a good lawyer. You have a nice last name.
But, but I’m just curious, why not, why do you keep fighting this thing? It just doesn’t make sense. We are well over 17. 779, right? We’re way above that number, and only if you’ve only taken [Name] are we five, five, or six times above that number if you multiply that number by three.
And every single ballot went to Biden, and you didn’t know that, but now you do. So tell me Brad what do we do now? We won the election and it’s not fair to take it away from us like that. And it will be very costly in many ways. And I think you have to say you are going to re-examine and you can re-examine but re-examine with people who want to find answers, not people who don’t want to find answers. For example, I hear Ryan and he’s probably a great lawyer and everything. But he makes statements about the ballot papers that he doesn’t know. But he does them with such – he certainly made them. But now I think he’s less sure because the answer is they all went to Biden and that alone brings us the choice many times over. you already know.
RAFFENSPERGER: Mr. . President, you have people conveying information, and we have our people conveying information. And then it comes before the court and the court then has to make a decision. We have to stand by our numbers. We believe our numbers are correct.
TRUMP: But why do you say that? I dont know. I mean sure we can play this game of dishes but why do you say that? First, they don’t even assign us a judge. They don’t even assign us a judge. But why wouldn’t you – Hey Brad, why don’t you want to check out [name]? And why don’t you want to say, hey, if President Trump is actually right, he’s winning the state of Georgia, just that one incident, without going through hundreds of thousands of rejected ballots? You just say you stick with it, I mean, I’ve been watching you, you know you don’t care. “Your numbers are correct. « But your numbers are wrong. You’re really wrong, and you’re really wrong, Brad. And I know this call isn’t going anywhere else but ultimately, you know – look, I end up winning, OK? Because you’re so wrong. And you handled that. You treated the people of Georgia so badly. You, between you and your governor, who was down 21, was down 21 points. And like a fool I approved of him and he was elected, but I’ll tell you he’s a disaster.
And he knows I can’t imagine the people in Georgia being that angry. I cannot imagine that he will ever be re-elected. I’ll tell you now. But why don’t you want to find it, right answer, Brad, instead of saying the numbers are correct over and over again? These numbers are so wrong.
MITCHELL: Mr.. . Secretary, sir. President, one of the things that we were, Alex can talk about it, we talked about it and I don’t know if the information got passed to your office but I think what the President is saying and what we were trying to say , look, the court is not acting on our petition. You haven’t even appointed a judge yet. But the people of Georgia and America have a right to know the answers. And you have data and records that we don’t have access to.
And you can keep telling us that you’ve investigated this and there’s nothing to be seen here. But we don’t know. We only know what you are telling us. What I don’t understand is why it wouldn’t be in everyone’s best interests to try to get to the bottom of it, to compare the numbers, you know, if you say because – to try to find out the truth, because We have no way to confirm what you are telling us. They tell us that you had an investigation at the State Farm Arena. I don’t have a report. I’ve never seen an investigation report before. I do not know that. I was pretty involved and I don’t know. And that’s just one of 25 categories. And it’s not even that – and like me, like the President said, we haven’t even gotten to the Dominion issue yet. It’s not part of our case. It’s not part of – we just didn’t feel like we needed to evolve –
TRUMP: No, we have a way, but I don’t want to go into that. Did we find a way later in other states? Sorry, but we don’t need it because we’re only 11. Have lost a thousand votes and don’t even need it. Personally, I think they are corrupt as hell, but we don’t need that. We just need more than 11. Find 000 votes. So we don’t need that. I don’t want to shake up the whole world, we won Georgia easily. We won it by hundreds of thousands of votes, but if you go by simple numbers we won it easy, easy. So we’re not giving Dominion a pass. We just don’t – you know we don’t need Dominion because we have so many other voices that we don’t have to prove it anymore than we already have.
KURT HILBERT, Trump attorney: Mr.. . President and Cleta, that’s Kurt Hilbert, if I may throw in a moment. Ryan, I want to suggest that only four categories already mentioned by the President actually have hard numbers, 24. 149 votes illegally counted. That alone is enough to change the results and cast doubt on the outcome. We want to sit down with your office, and we can do it for compromise purposes, just like we did with that phone call, just to deal with that limited category of voices. And if you can determine that our numbers are incorrect, then that’s fine. However, we believe they are correct. We have now had three to four separate experts examine these numbers. These numbers are based on –
HILBERT: Right. And that’s just based on U. . S.. . P. . S.. . Data and your own Secretary of State data. That is what we ask and would ask you to put yourself in a compromising settlement process with us and actually register voter cards and registrations, and if you can convince us that Dec.. 149 are inaccurate, then fine, but we tend to believe that this is obviously more than 11. 779 are. This is enough to completely change the results in and of itself. So what would you say to that, Mr.. . Germany?
GERMANY: Kurt, I am happy to take care of our lawyers and we will set that up, but not – that number is incorrect and I think we can show you why it is not based on what we have considered. And that would be helpful. I will be happy to answer our lawyers and arrange that with you.
TRUMP: Well, let me ask you Kurt, do you think that is an exact number? This was based on the information you were given by the Foreign Minister, wasn’t it?
HILBERT: That is correct, and this information is the most minimal, most conservative data based on the U.. S.. . P. . S.. . Data and the data of the Secretary of State that have been made publicly available. We don’t have the Secretary of State’s internal numbers, but we asked for them six times. I have sent a letter to [incomprehensible] requesting this information several times, and each time it has been rejected. So it stands to reason that if the information is not there, there is something to hide. That is the problem we have.
GERMANY: Well, that is not the case here. Things that you are entitled to and there are things that the law does not allow us to reveal.
TRUMP: Well, you have to. According to the law, you are not allowed to report incorrect election results. OKAY? You mustn’t, and you did. This is a flawed election result. And honestly this should be very quick, you should meet tomorrow because you have a big choice ahead of you and because of what you did to the president you know the people of Georgia know this was a scam. And because of what you did to the president, a lot of people don’t vote. And a lot of Republicans will vote negative because they hate what you did to the president. OK they hate it. And they will vote, and you would be respected, if you were really respected, if this matter could be resolved before the election. There is a big election coming up on Tuesday. And that’s why I think it’s really important that you meet up tomorrow and work on those numbers. Because I know Brad, if you think we’re right you will say so, and I don’t want to blame anyone, I don’t blame, I’m just saying this, you know, you don’t want from new points of view and from new views of the election results, we won the election. You know it’s very easy, we won the election. Ask the governor of the major states in the surrounding states that there is no way you have lost Georgia. As the Georgian politicians say, there is no way you have lost Georgia, nobody, everyone knows that I won it with hundreds of thousands of votes. But I’m telling you, it’s going to have a huge impact on Tuesday if you don’t fix this thing quickly.
WIESEN: Well, Mr.. . President, this is Mark. Let me, let me just, it sounds like we have two different sides that agree that we can look at these, these areas. And, and I expect we can do this within the next 24 to 48 hours to reconcile this, so we can look at the two allegations and make sure we can get access to the Secretary of State’s data Validate or invalidate the claims made, is that correct?
GERMANY: I didn’t say that. I’m glad I can sit down with our lawyer or have him sit down – we start and the lawyers on this page and tell him, “Hey, here is how we know based on what we’ve looked at so far that this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong. ‘
WIESEN: What you’re saying Ryan, wait, let me, let me be sure. So you really don’t want to allow access to the data. You just want to explain again why the lawsuit is wrong?
GERMANY: I don’t think that we, I don’t think we can grant access to legally protected data. But we can sit down with them and –
TRUMP: But you can make the wrong choice? You can have the wrong choice, right?
TRUMP: When are you, when will you count the signature on it? When are you going to do a signature check in Fulton County that you said you would and now all of a sudden you don’t do it anymore? When do you do this
UNIDENTIFIED: To address this personal information and privacy issue. Is it possible for the Secretary of State to represent the President’s lawyers so that we can access this information, private information, without you having any kind of violation?
TRUMP: Well, I don’t want to know who it is. You can do it very confidentially, you can sign a confidentiality agreement. That’s okay. I don’t have to know names. But we have the information on this subject that we’re talking about. We received all of this information from the State Secretary.
WIESEN: Yeah, so let me, let me recommend, Ryan, when you and Kurt get together. You know, if we get off that phone call, if you could get together and work out a plan to go over some of what we have, we have your lawyers where we can we can actually look at the dates. For example mr. Secretary, I can tell you, you say there were only two dead who would vote. I can promise you there is more. And your investigation may show that, but I can promise you there is more. At the same time, I think it is important that we move quickly to try this and resolve it as soon as possible. And if this is the good next step, hopefully we can end this call and agree to get the two of you together right away.
TRUMP: Well, why don’t my lawyers show you where you got the information from, it shows the Foreign Minister and you don’t even have to look for names. We don’t want names, we don’t care. But we got this information from you and Stacey Abrams laughs about it. You know she goes around saying, « These guys are dumber than a rock. « What she did to this party is amazing. I’ll tell you, and I ran into her only once, and that was with a guy named Brian Kemp, and I hit her. And if I hadn’t run, Brian wouldn’t have had a shot either in the general or in the primary, he was dead, dead as a doornail. He never thought he would shoot any of them. What a fool I was, but that’s the way it is. It’s just the way it is. I want you for the lawyers of, I want you maybe to speak to Ryan, ideally tomorrow, because I think we should come to a resolution before the election or else you will have it, you. ‘We’ll have people who just don’t vote. They don’t want to vote, they hate the state. They hate the governor and they hate the secretary of state. I’ll tell you in a moment. And the only people you like are people who will never vote for you. You know this brand, don’t you? They like you, you know, they like you, they can’t believe what they found. They want more people like you. So look, can you get together tomorrow and Brad, we just want the truth. It’s easy. And and everyone will look very good, if the truth comes out it’s fine. It will take a while but let the truth come out. And the truth, the real truth, is that I’m at least 400. Won 000 votes. That is the real truth. But we don’t need 400. 000 votes, we need less than 2. 000 votes. And can you meet tomorrow, Ryan?
GERMANY: I’ll speak to Chris, the attorney representing us on the case, and see when he can meet Kurt.
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